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Applause for Arnold... Let the naysayers pick the fruit!

Posted on Mon, 01/08/2007 - 10:24pm by Cora Currier

After quite muscular action on global warming and minimum wage, Arnold Schwarzenegger has announced a rehaul of California's health care system. His plan would require residents to have health insurance-- something 6.5 million Californians lack. (The terminator made this announcement from a hospital where he is still recuperating from a broken leg... he feels their pain. Apparently, he does feel pain). The plan also provides for illegal immigrants, which has California Republicans revolting against their own. Illegal immigration, is of course, the button to push with them. Remember back in March when California Rep Dana Rohrabacher declared: "I say let the prisoners pick the fruit"? Well also on Arnold's list this year is prison reform, with Democrats pushing for shorter sentences for lesser offenders. Now who's going to pick the fruit?

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As my mama always says, the

Posted on Tue, 01/09/2007 - 12:35am by Katie Loncke (not verified)

As my mama always says, the devil's in the details. Do we have an idea of what good Cali Dems are saying about the reform?

Maybe the ad board should send student offenders to pick the fruit.  :)

Applause, indeed. May I

Posted on Tue, 01/09/2007 - 12:40am by Josh Patashnik

Applause, indeed. May I suggest this (among other things) vindicates those of us who crossed party lines to vote for Arnold last November and were mocked by many members of this fine organization?

In the prescient words of the Dead Kennedys, California über alles!

No, Josh. No it does not.

Posted on Tue, 01/09/2007 - 1:04am by Markus Kolic
No, Josh. No it does not. He's still a Republican.

Aw, be nice to Josh. We love

Posted on Tue, 01/09/2007 - 10:06am by Jess Coggins
Aw, be nice to Josh. We love him even if he is a "fucking Republican."

That was "applause", not

Posted on Tue, 01/09/2007 - 10:28am by Cora Currier
That was "applause", not "ovation." He is still a Republican. 

So was Earl Warren, another

Posted on Tue, 01/09/2007 - 10:31am by Josh Patashnik
So was Earl Warren, another esteemed governor of my fair state.  I don't see why the big scarlet R next to his name matters more than getting good things done.

If by "getting good things

Posted on Tue, 01/09/2007 - 1:29pm by Markus Kolic

If by "getting good things done" you mean "embracing the policy priorities of any reasonable Democrat -- while also raising money for GOP infrastructure, supporting Republican candidates, and making palatable the brand name of a political institution which stands to destroy the successful function of government and everything we believe", then I guess that makes sense...

(I know how harsh that sounds. But that actually is what the Republican Party does. I can't conscion supporting it, any more than I could conscion supporting the Hell's Angels just because one of their members helped an old lady across the street.)

I would say two things in

Posted on Tue, 01/09/2007 - 9:41pm by Josh Patashnik

I would say two things in response. First, there are major advantages to having Arnold Schwarzenegger, rather than Phil Angelides, put this proposal forward. It helps bring on board (or at least neutralize) large numbers of people who would otherwise fight health care reform tooth and nail. Politics, especially in California, is messy and complicated. Arnold's plan is going to be hard enough to get passed--a partisan Democratic plan, even in a majority Democratic state, would be even more difficult to implement. (Aside from which, I'm not sure I would have fully trusted Angelides with a Democratic legislature to be fiscally responsible. Power corrups Democrats, too.)

More broadly, there are two ways we can approach the Republicans: try to marginalize and destroy them, as Tom DeLay tried with the Democrats, or help them grow into a party more ideologically to our liking. I choose the latter, because I believe the former will never work.

Here's an analogy that I think is surprisingly apt. Just as we can't win the war on terror simply by killing lots of terrorists, we likewise can't win the war on Republicans simply by trying to defeat them all at the polls.* (Though, of course, killing terrorists is a big part of the war on terror, and defeating Republicans at the polls is a big part of the war on Republicans.) You also have to have a strategy of finding and strengthening those within the opposition with whom you think you can work, because completely annihilating the opposition is an unrealistic option.

*The usual disclaimer applies here that I in no way mean to suggest Republicans are terrorists, or anything of the sort.  It's just an analogy for rhetorical purposes.

"The plan was welcomed by

Posted on Tue, 01/09/2007 - 10:34am by Cora Currier
"The plan was welcomed by the Democrats who control the Legislature, which must approve any proposal. Assembly Speaker Fabian Nuñez (D-Los Angeles) called it "good work" and "a good start.""  --today's LA Times

You've clearly bought into

Posted on Tue, 01/09/2007 - 10:13pm by Garrett Dash Nelson

You've clearly bought into the MSM FUD that Arnold actually has a "broken leg." The real story is that he's having a rocket launcher installed, enabling him to merely lift his leg and strike down any enemies of the California Republic—especially the uninsured.